Apparently, he is not testing us, but when Jesus comes for that 1000YR rule, he will see if we are able to do everything that he requires of us. In 2 Thess 2 in the KJV does state that the "son of destruction" will be sitting in the "temple of God", or the head offfice of the WT in brooklin. If we decide to be a Jw, we would have to continue to lie to others- such as subjects as the 607BCE date,ect. There have been many JWs who have left and gone back to Christendom- which, according to the scriptures will be gone by the political powers. And as it is too late to start another religion, this will mean that we all have to STILL prove faithful to the Most High God by NOT lieing and to continue our biblical studies by reserch. So, we are INDIVIDUALLY responsable to ourselves. Have we adapted anything Satanic as part of our lives? I noticed that some pictures along with our comments are satanic pictures- i have even seen pictures of topless women. Also, some who have fallen away from being a JW have gone back or started foul speech in our comments. If all that we have done to aquire true knowlagde if Jesus would accept each one of us is upto each one of us. I can only suggest that this site be of an upbuilding one- which may be hard for some, after the feelings have been hurt by JWs. We must never forget what we are aiming for, to be accepted by The Most High God for our TRUE worship to him so as we are accepted by Him in his new order of things.
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Is Jehovah trying to stumble us?
by ButtLight inif you think about it, he obviously knows we are imperfect.
he knows that there are tons of religions to choose from.
now if we are imperfect, and choose to be catholic cause we believe it to be the right religion, we die?
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PLEASE HELP ME!
by UNCLEAR inmy husband and i for the first time had an honest discussion regarding jw doctrines, he believes in the flawlessness of the society, so he is not easy to talk to.
he did agree however that if 607 is not correct that the society has it all wrong.
well to say the least that was an interesting turn of events.
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Hi. The issue about the 607BCE date is straight forward. You could go in any bookshop for the reference such as an encyclopedia or reference book which they all do state the dates Get several books or get a scan from the public liburary at is a good place for information. If he asks about the 70YR captivity- hear is the info on this.
Nebuchadnezzar ruled in 605BCE. He took Judah in 587BCE on his 18th year of rulership. (605-18=587) Jer 32:1+2a. He destroyed the Temple in 586BCE, and removed all their belongings, including all of the items from the first Temple. The people started their 70YR captivity from 586BCE. Daris the Mede ruled in 522BCE. (Show him from recent WT) (586-522=64YRS) The SECOND Temple was finished and ALL their belongings were returned or replaced in the "sixth year" of Daris the Mede. Ezra 6:15. (64+6=70YRS) See also all of Ezra chapter 6.
By using the Bible and WT and other reference books all the details should be straight forward. Now, to get references on dates and prophices on anything, ther are some good websites that do quote as to what the publications had said. Just look up "Jehovahs Witnesses" on the web site and there are many there. Then you could visit any kingdom hall where their liburarys are- stocked up with older publications and these can be used. But first, speak to him about the 607BCE date, then he will feel less reluctent for you to do excelent research on other matters, such as the societys connection to Freemasons and hideing the fact that C.T.Russell was a 33 degree mason. The evidence is on page 88 of the "proclaimers" book which has a "cross and crown" on one side of the Watchtower and a Knights Templer suit on the other side. The "Goldern Age" is also from Freemason origon. On the "Paster Russells Sermons" is the God Ra with wings. Also is the "Chart of the Ages" map that all brothers had predictions that came from the Great Pryimid of Giza. The one predition is shown on page 135, where it says that "End of world in 1914", where Russell belived that the 1000YR reign was to commence in Oct of 1914, with Armegeddon to happen a few months before Oct 1914- including the first ressurection. Even on page 163, it says that "Millions Now Will Never Die" dated Sept 5 1922. Millions have died since that time. And check out on page 201, where on the "Manna" book, the SAME symbol that the UN uses- a laural reed growing each side of the words. This is also a Freemason sign still used today. There is a much clearer picture of the "cross and crown" as the brothers had to wear badges of the symbol. Check out all that you can about Freemasons on the website and compare. as Freemasons are really saten worshippers. Through reserch will also show us that the main british Lodge of Freemasons also uses the "watchtower" sign, which is on every book and mag and letterhead printed.We should not have ANY sign to show that we worship an invisable God. -
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advise: I just got a call
by rekless inmy daughter from california called me and said my grand daughter from arkansa called her and no longer wants to be a jw, that she is a pot head and has a boy friend and wants to be emancipated and to top it all off she wanted to talk to her grand paw (me).
in her words, "i don't want to be a jehovah's witness and put up with that shit.
i don't beleive that shit.
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I should not worry too much, now that she is 16. Here in the U.K. when you are 16, the person is no longer a minor- even though they may be still with their parents. It may come to it that she may leave home and stay with you. But, when you do meet with her, show to her that you are really an ordinary person and not a rebel. It is just that you have made up your mind up that you no longer want to be a JW. And tell her why from the logical infomation that you got over the years why you do not want to be a JW. From where i come from, it is breaking the law if someone interfers with the postage system. Her parents could be arrested for "stealing" her mail and throwing it away. I do not know how the law affects you where you live. It could be one reason why she feels the way that she does at this time. And as a 16yr old, she decides now as to what she wants to do with her life. You could mention to her that what we have not been told is recorded in 2 Thess 2, a prophecy recorded where there will be a "falling away" (KJV not from NWT). Which means that many from the regular meeting goers will dwindle for one reason or another over the next few years. The scriptures from 2 Thess 2 also says while the few remaining ones who will still go to the meetings when Jesus arrives for that 1000YR reign will be destroyed by Jesus for still sticking to lies from what they have been taught. Teach her from what you know, the truths like 587/586BCE and not 607BCE, ect. When she goes back to her parents, she can show her parents from what you have taught her. She may even come back to you for more info. And as a final note, to her it will be your word against the parents in relation to your wifes death. If you have got any records of what had happened to your wife, show her the evidence. Such as paperwork from the hospital or doctors. Then she will know the truth an impart it to her parents. If you still believe in the ressurection, you can also mention this to her. I wish you all the best over the long term outcome.
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Skull and bones
by witnessscorn inhas anyone herd of skull and bones?
it is a a part of freemsons.the founders were named russell.
anybody know if ct was part of that family.
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There are a few Freemason "secret"societys around, and C.T.Russell was not only a Freemason, but also a member of the Knights Templer. Looking in the "Jehovahs Witnesses- Proclaimers of Gods kingdom on pages 50,65,88,162 and 651 shows the symbols of the Great pryimid of Giza, the Cross and Crown, the knights sign on the watchtower, the sun god Ra with wings ect. Even today, the symbol of a watchtower on the books and mags and letterheads are also of freemason origin.The Lodge in London, UK uses the watchtower sign. The knights sign on the early WT by Russell is a symbol of the Knights Templer. The Skull and bones are connected with Freemasonary- even in the "Knowledge" book page 132 (with the page with picture folded in half and then half again) gives a picture of the Skull and Bones. I have done exaustive reserch in Freemasonary, and found out that it is them that is runnung this world. The internet supplies all evidence of this- truely the "name" of the "wild beast" with the seven heads and ten horns. Even with the internet and several books published for the shops- we have only touched the surface of evidence as ths subject has been secret for many years, with many more secrets to be revealed.
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russel's fasination with pyrmids
by mathead incould russel's pyrimids be really just a symbol for a pyramid scheme?.
it seems the wts is pyramidal in structure with the gb at the top.
the dub publishers are at the bottom.
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The pyrimid does seem to be based on the pyrimid schemes of today. Only evidence can support this. However. the pyrimid next to his gravestone, with the "cross and crown" and other symbols on his editions of his books and mags does support that he was a 33 degree Freemason. Even today, the symbol of a "watchtower" on all books of today is also a clear sign of Freemason involvement. The actual proof of getting more involved to be a JW lies within the books and mags. There are carefully inserted subliminal figures and faces within EVERY publication since the 1970s.Every WT and Awake! shows satanic figures and faces produced today for study. This is to insert fear into the readers that read them. Some of these are obviece, however missed by the naked eye, some are harder to see. The pryimid next to his gravestone is the pryimid with the "all seeing eye" that is also shown on the back of a $1 note provided by the american banks but it is really a Federal Reserve note- run by Freemasons. The "watchtower" is used by the Lodge of Freemasons run in London, England.
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To all Active JW's on the board
by UNCLEAR inas you are all aware i am new to the board, this is my third topic post.
since i have come online and expressed some concerns regarding docturnal issues, i have been pm'd by several active jw's on the board pretending to have concerns also but then sending pm's to "trust in the congregation and jevovah", "talk to the elders about your concerns" and "stick close to the congregation".
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P.S. Psalm 28:28 says the "Jehovah is a lover of justice". in a court of law, any evidence can be provided to be for or against any court case.If you do have any evidence of his actions, show the scripture first and then attempt to show your evidence. If they refuse to see the evidence- shoe it to others in the congregation. If they refuse to see the evidence, then this is a testomony that they, in your congregation, do not love a God of justice. keep the evidence in a safe place away from home, just in case you may need it for a court of law.
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To all Active JW's on the board
by UNCLEAR inas you are all aware i am new to the board, this is my third topic post.
since i have come online and expressed some concerns regarding docturnal issues, i have been pm'd by several active jw's on the board pretending to have concerns also but then sending pm's to "trust in the congregation and jevovah", "talk to the elders about your concerns" and "stick close to the congregation".
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Hello, there. I hope that I can help. I think that the scripture that you are looking for is in Matt 5:27+28. It reads "You heard that it was said, "You must not commit adultery." But i say to you that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman as to HAVE A PASSION for her has ALLREADY committed adultery with her in his heart.". Now, we do not really need to bring out complecated words to try and explain this scripture. If a dedicated brother, as a husband, decides to look at porn, he is commiting adultery with his heart- as it is his heart that motivates him to keep on continually to look at such things. This also relates to rape. Also, when you are attending meetings, do not keep quiet about this amongst all brothers and sisters, as the elders will often do not want it to be spread over the congregation and they would want it to be quiet as possable. Get in contact with a soliciter and get any advice that you can get on the matter.As from what Jesus had said in the scripture above, you do have grounds for divorce- scriptually. If the matter does get violent, then with the risk of your life as well as your baby you will need to get out of the house- as the Most High God is a life giver. Your removal from the home will get the notice from the elders. If the elders decide to "mark" you for your descion for divorce- let it be known that the Most High God supports the divorce according to Matt 5.And it is he that imparts the reward of everlasting life- not the elders.
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Should I sitll offer my JW clients a 50% discount
by jwfacts inas a part time job on the side i have been doing income tax for many years.
i have around 100 clients and 50 of them are jws.
now that i am d/f i am not sure how many of the jws will continue to use my services.
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One thing that we must remember is that now your close relationship with them has been severed, by you being DF. Seeing now that they will look to you as a "man of the nations", it will be best if you act accordingly. If you are worried about loosing custermers- dont! All firms worry about such things. Now it will not be fair if you give a 50% discount because of their religious backgroud and to your other custermers the full cost of your services- when all custermers should be treated the same. You could drop your costs 25% to your other custermers, and raise 25% to JWs. If you drop some of the prices, those custermers could refer you to their friends. You can show the JWs Acts 10:34, where it states that "God is not partial"- meaning that even God treats everyone the same if they question your choice of raising their fees. Only a suggestion!
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help! family mbr reading my 3 yr old My Book of Bible Stories
by limbogirl inmy soon to be three year old son asked me yesterday if i was dying.
i was shocked that he knew the word 'dying' and asked where he heard it.
he proceeded to tell me that his aunt (a jw) read him a story about jesus twiste (christ) and jesus was dying.
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I should not worry about it, just answer his questions openly and honestly. Just like when he asked you if you were dying. Just answer him, no you are not. As he grows up, he will think and decide that what he has been taught by the other parent or family members have been lying to him. This will be a long term thing, and as mentioned before, do not use him as a pawn. At this early age, he will get confused at the different things that he will be taught by all members of the family. After each visit when he comes back to you, just ask him what happened on that day, so as to keep up with what he has been taught. According to the bible prophecy at 2 Thess 2 (not in NWT), the prophecy there mentions of many "falling away" due to the truths found within the books and mags- the bible story book is one. All those who remains as a JW will be destroyed apon Jesus arrival for that 1000YR reign. In due course, when he gets older, he will find the lies and decete within the religon, then he will decide for himself later on not to get involved within the teachings. I could also suggest that you also get a copy of the book and when he learns something from the book, go over it with him and also use the scriptures- you will not belive of how the storys in "my book of bible storys" do not tally up with what the scriptures say. I wish you every success between your relationship with your son.
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i have a question
by brandon_the many inwould the passage from new world translation be a miss print....because in the holy bible the word is god......so if god is not capitalized..then what god is the book referring to...because there is only one father and one living god witch is jesus...... .
please help me , because this has been puzzling me...... .
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Its funny that everyone can have arguements about John 1:1. The NWT supports that there is no trinity, whereas translations such as the KJV seems to give support that there is a trinity. However, if we read the rest of chapter 1 of John, there are scriptures there, even in the KJV, that signifies that there is no trinity. Like , for ,example, verse 34 which says "And i saw, and bare record that this is the son of God." And on the other hand, it was totally wrong for the WTBTS to change John 1:1- as this is wrong to change ANY of the Holy Writings. So, what is the answer? The answer is simple. First, there was great invisable being (the Father)which he called himself "The Word". Then "the Word" created his "only beggotten son". Seeing that the "only begotten son" had no reference (e.g. a name), The Word called his only begotten son also "the Word". So, the great invisable being, the Father, named his son after himself. Even today some fathers here on earth name their sons after themselves.Seeing now that there are now TWO "the Word"s, the Father decided to call himself "God"to stop confusion. So, now , we have God and his "only begotten son"-the Word. God had allways been called this as this title, until the Isrealites demanded a name from God, which is now to be belived by experts as Yahwah. (YHWH)(Jehovah is an incorrect name, and Freemasons use this as part of their trinty.) When the word came to this earth in the flesh, he was not called "the Word", but was also given a name. In fact, since the scriptures, he has been given several names- Jesus as being one of them. So, the explanation of John 1:1 is this. "In the begining was the Word"(The Father) "And the Word was with God" (Jesus was with the Father) "and the word WAS (past tence) God" (speaking about the Father). By this explaination, the WHOLE chapter 1 of John is not contridicting itself. Seeing that it was emperer Constintine that decided to mix true worship with false pagen worship, the concept of a trinity may have been implanted within true worship in his time. And this was perhaps an oppertunity to use John 1:1 to support a trinity belief. As there was a LOT of concentration of ONLY using John 1:1, we should not disregard the rest of the scriptures- such as the rest of John 1. (see also John 1:18)